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At the German technology company Lucanet, the relationship between finance and leadership is crucial. While this relationship’s importance can be justified in nearly all organizations, how this company has developed its systems is uniquely CFO-influenced. Under the leadership of former CFO turned CEO Elias Apel and vice president of finance Carsten Gerger, the two have developed a strategic relationship that has become a core foundation of the business.
While Apel is based in Munch, Germany, Gerger is based in Berlin, a span of about 350 miles. Though the two continue to meet formally monthly, they operate in different realms of influence within the organization daily. While Gerger has continued to develop the finance function efficiency through much of its own technology, Apel has transitioned into a role where he now has taken the same initiative he took to the finance function as the CFO and has driven it across the organization.
For a finance leader who is working for a former CFO turned CEO, there can be a challenge around autonomy. Gerger said he feels like his ability to autonomously lead his responsibilities of the finance function is not impacted by Apel’s CFO experience. To the contrary, he said some of the most important parts of his job are the in-person meet-ups he and Apel have on a semi-regular basis.
“I think it is essential that me and [Apel] meet in person because in the end, it’s about personal connection between finance and [the CEO],” said Gerger. “I have built out a lot of our finance function’s ability on the technical side of things, and sometimes I need the awareness of other people, especially someone like [Apel], to make sure there are no blind spots and I am getting everything done and keeping everything running.”
Gerger also added that his working relationship with Apel and its development over time has made him much more comfortable in addressing things like risk and strategic decision-making. “It’s been really helpful to have the perspective of a former CFO when I bring up a different view on something,” said Gerger. “If I am thinking about risk a certain way, [Apel] is able to provide insight from a financial perspective but from a different point of view within the organization.”
One of the most important parts of their relationship, Gerger says, is their ability to candidly disagree and address things pragmatically. Through their aforementioned different viewpoints of the business, the two can have meaningful conversations about direction that allows Gerger to provide strategic insight and Apel the opportunity to get that insight from someone who speaks the language of finance.